So, I've temporarily solved this by including this in .htaccess

RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} 80
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ www.example.com/$1 [R=301,L]

to push anyone trying to connect through port 80 to 443. I'm still curious if anyone knows what's going on here...

Hello all,

I've run into a snag that I can't figure out. It's SEF url related, but please toss me to the joomla forum if you think it's not related to JoomSEF. I'm hoping someone else has run into this, but haven't found a solution from searching Google or this forum for a couple hours. Basically, all links are SSL from the menus, etc. but any person coming into the site using http: instead of https isn't redirected to the https version of the page

www.stereoscopolis.com
to
www.stereoscopolis.com

IF Search Engine Friendly URLs is on in the Joomla global configuration. I want the entire site to run on SSL.

configuration.php is set for live site to be https:
Force SSL is on

I've tried:
Force it to redirect through modrewrite (not desirable)
SSL On/Off/Ignore for the menu item

Any thoughts?