That's strange that the error is still there even with SEF disabled in Joomla.

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hi there, no, it disappears if joomsef is turned off
the strange thing is that with joomsef turned on, and the meu item deleted out of the db and the contact item deleted (no other items in the contact_details table), it still runs the sql error (every cache possible deleted)
If I do a new install locally and install jooomsef NEXT, then create the contact item and menu item, there's no problem.
So there's either a bug in J3.02/conflict joomsef/server problem
tks for the help we may take up the paid suport, will do a newdom/install on the remote server mimicking the local process and see what happens first
have been posting here as a help to you as well as finding a solution

If you find a way to reproduce the problem on a fresh Joomla installation, please post the steps so I can check it on my test server too. Thank you.